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Satan Soul Stamina[]
"Using this spell is extremely exhausting for Mirajane, so much that she cannot execute it in consecutive reprises."
That is the last sentence for Mirajane's Base Satan Soul appearance description. I was going to remove it as to me it has false information. After the Timeskip Mirajane has shown to use Base Satan Soul and Satan Soul: Sitri back-to-back and multiple times within the span of hours and/or minutes, with no noticeable fatigue. If anything Satan Soul: Sitri should be taxing her greatly, and even that isn't apparent.
I'd like to hear someone else's opinion on this, they can remove it, edit it to where it states that it was taxing for her before the Timeskip, have me do either, or leave it as it is( I personally wouldn't advise the last choice). If it is edited in any way, it also has to be for Base Satan Soul's main article/page. Please take into consideration Mirajane's Enhanced Endurance under her Magic and Abilities Section. --R. Lawton (talk) 01:21, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
Leave it as is. It is in no way false as Mirajane had said it was not a spell she could keep using back in Tenrou. Despite her training post-timeskip, we have no confirmation to how much her power has grown. Until he do find out, that's when we can make appropriate alterations.
:Umnei: 00:54, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
I don't remember her using base Satan Soul. If you don't mind, could you maybe provide chapter references to what you're referring to? I agree that leaving as it is now is erroneous, but I can't seem to remember her using base Satan Soul and switching to another one not too long afterwards. Jakuho Raikoben01:33,6/23/2013
In the latest chapter, Mirajane is using Satan Soul while in 331 she uses Sitri. her base Satan Soul AND her most powerful Soul in less than 10 minutes (i'm guessing), so yeah, imo it should be changed to now being able to do so after the training
03:12, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry you guys, when I first read this post, I was just coming off of my inactivity and I had not seen the most recent chapter. >_> Anyhow, I agree. It should be changed. Jakuho Raikoben22:35,6/23/2013
Just a little note, Mira used Sitri twice and Satan Soul twice too, not just once. Just to let you know since I can't edit it. Mirajane is using Satan Soul for the second time here Raveltlight 06:34, February 12, 2014 (UTC)Raveltlight 22:26, 02/12/14
I edited it for you ravelight --R. Lawton (talk) 20:25, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Through Take Over[]
Hello, I was looking through Mirajane's magic and realised that she used Macro through Take over (according to the page), so it is safe to say that every other spell she uses are through take over as well? Such as Demon Blast, Soul Extinction, Water Magic(Evil Explosion), Lightning Magic(Evil Spark), because I highly doubt that she is able to use them without taking a form into the Demon that knows the move. Basically, what I'm trying to say is should we change all of the spells she used be listed as "(through take over)" like it says on the Macro Curse Page.
49.184.77.126 12:53, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
You kinda ruined your point when you said "highly doubt". That means its speculation :P 14:36, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
When I say highly doubt... doesn't it means that it's also a speculation that we Mirajane can use the magics without Taking Over(hence no "through take over" next to her as a user)? Neither of my point and the current one is proven. 49.184.77.117 05:45, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
When you Take Over an ability, it becomes your own - an addition to your Magical arsenal. On Macro's page when it says that Mirajane is a user "through Take Over" it was saying that she acquired the Curse by taking it over, it's not meant to be implying that the Curse can only be used while utilizing Take Over because in all of the times we've seen Take Over in action, we've never been told anything of the sort. :/ And since "through Take Over" is not a distinction we've ever used before, I've removed it from the pages anyhow. 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死06:15,4/25/2014
I have a question. Could You include a "Curse" line in Mira's page code like of those from Tartarus ? I added it there since she 'used it' to call Elfman, but It nowhere appears in her table. Mad (従え) 10:14, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
Mirajane's Race[]
Hi! I was wondering, even though the "race" section of her bio says she is human, would Mirajane's race be half demon or demon? She said that she contains demon particles, and on the demon page, it says that demons contain demon particles.
76.88.2.200 07:21, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Nope, she is 100% human, but her magic allows her to transform into a demon. She could resist macro because of her magic. When she is not using takeover, she is 100% human. When she is using takeover, she is 100% demon-- God · Pray · 07:24,7/10/2015
Macro[]
Since the only curse Mirajane has ever used is Macro, is it OK for me to add her to her character template?--Jeraru Ferunandesu (talk) 09:59, July 19, 2015 (UTC)
Clarification[]
One of the sentences on her page says "Mirajane then tells Lucy that her and Natsu seem to get along really well, almost as if they were a couple." Somebody should reword that... - SW 07:39, September 13, 2015 (UTC)
Water Magic[]
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Mirajane can use Water Magic outside of Satan Soul. |
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I don't think Mirajane is restricted to using Water Magic just in her Satan Soul, she used it in her human form before. --75.185.208.176 03:19, October 1, 2015 (UTC)
When/Where? NoNickNeeded (talk) 06:40, October 1, 2015 (UTC)
- On a chapter cover. :P 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死07:26,10/1/2015
Really? We add stuff from chapter covers other than the profiles pages now too? So should we also add to Natsu's and Lucy's articles that they occasionally cosplay as Elie and Haru?
Sarcastic first reactions aside, could you please tell me which cover that was exactly, so I can form a proper opinion on the matter? NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:07, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
I figured Mira could use Water Magic through her Satan Soul, as seen when vs. Freed in the anime, but it seems she was seen using it in a magazine Lucy was reading as well. However, considering how unidimensional our source is, I cannot tell whether she's using Water Magic (a feat never accomplished as human in the manga), or if she's using levitation (which I don't think is impossible, as Bora could do so with a few droplets of juice), so honestly, I would say its not enough to go by.
:Umnei: 21:12, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
Right page this time. ( .___.) Sorry Nick, I told you wrong. It was not a chapter cover. It was page 25 of chapter 1. As to Umnei's suggestion of removing Water Magic, I disagree wholeheartedly. Firstly, saying Mirajane used Water Magic is not speculation. It's fact. A fact that can be (and is) referenced in the actual manga. Not a chapter cover, not Mashima's twitter, the legitimate manga. Secondly, Mirajane uses a variety of Magic besides Take Over (Sleep Magic, Transformation, etc.) No one is saying she's a master in the Magic, it's just something she's capable of using. Something which is reinforced even further by the fact that she used Water Magic in her Satan Soul form in the anime and in the manga. Thirdly, If a character magically produces water out of their hand, then they are using Water Magic. To assume it's anything else is just ridiculous. Could she be using telekinesis to lift the water and make it appear like its sprouting out of her hand? Sure. But since when do we pick our own complicated take on a situation over the simple, obvious take? Occam's razor people, Occam's razor. 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死21:16,10/16/2015
If we are going to say Mira is merely levitating the water, then why dont we say Gray doesn't use ice magic but instead levitates ice? Maybe Juvia is just levitating her water, Natsu just levitates fire. We saw her using water magic in Satan Soul. Therefore what is more likely, that she levitates water here but then uses water magic later, or that she used water magic both times. Come on Umnei, the answer is clear here.-- God · Pray · 21:22,10/16/2015
I'm sorry Umy, but I also think it's pretty obvious that she uses (or at least can utilize) Water Magic. In fact, I would say we're speculating way more by saying she can't use it. Wonder Talk ★★21:33,10/16/2015
If she was shown using it, then there's not much we can do.
WrathZero 21:34, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
Quit directing your discussion towards me, guys! I'm just an innocent Nei placing my opinion down on a discussion that wasn't closed xD
:Umnei: 21:36, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it seemed like you were the only opposing person, so I guess we all just had a go at attempting to make you change your mind. XP Wonder Talk ★★21:53,10/16/2015
If it was a chapter cover, I'd say ditch it, but like this I think going with her being able to use water magic is the best option.
Sure I could come up with some convoluted ways how this is not water magic, but that'd just be unlikely brain-kneading... I think here it is just what it appears to be. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:09, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
After seeing the chapter page, it's obvious she's using it, but still it's a minor thing that is just a filler to make her look cool in Lucy's magazine. HamodyAsgail 10:12, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
So this useless discussion (imo) is still clogging up the 'Quick News' feed... we have a clear majority and I wouldn't say there is anyone at this point who can out-right deny that she can utilize Water Magic (to a certain extent) = discussion solved, results are in? XP Wonder Talk ★★13:31,10/18/2015
Absent-minded Mirajane[]
Umm, I am sorry to bother but I would like to ask one thing. Why is Mirajane described as being absent-minded in the Keen intellect section of her page, when as far as I can recollect she does not show any signs of being absent-minded. Sure, she is indifferent to the guild's brawls and does not express her anger much, even in painful situations but that does not mean she is an absent-minded Mage. She takes full note of her surroundings and is quite expressive, which is what absent-minded people fail to do. If you think my point is valid enough, I would request the removal of the phrase. (I cannot edit the page myself as it is protected; it's a shame, for removing this phrase was my main motivation to join the wikia.) --Hywenghost (talk) 20:49, May 15, 2016 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what it's supposed to refer to either and since there's no reference, I have removed that part. Miskos3 Message 20:58, May 15, 2016 (UTC)
Overview, Sypnosis, Galleries[]
She deserves them. I think you should do that to all the Fairy Tail members who were stuck on Tenrou Island. Theiy're obviously main characters. (47.150.117.27 03:29, September 26, 2016 (UTC))
- It's about byte count, not necessarily who is the most important.
WrathZero 04:04, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Ugh. Just do it to all the characters to stay organized geez (172.56.40.238 19:26, October 1, 2016 (UTC))
That's not how it works. Then we would have hundreds of characters with split pages. It's about byte count and lag during editing, and that's how it will remain.
WrathZero 19:31, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
S-class trivia[]
There's a foreshadowing in the episode 10 anime where she's running down the stairs after Happy stole the quest from the second floor - in order to use those stairs you have to be S-class. Is that worth mentioning or do we know that she's S-class from the start?(Ike3733 (talk) 08:53, March 29, 2019 (UTC))
It being a foreshadowing is speculation and we don't add foreshadowing as part of the trivia since it has nothing to do with the in-universe story and only the readers or viewers are the only one who can even notice it unless it was outright mentioned by mashima himself or a reference existed mentioning that her going down the stairs foreshadows her being an S-class.
All we know at that time is that she works mainly as a fairy tail mage & the Fairy tail head waitress which also acts as makarov's assistant. So her being able to access the second floor might just be part of her responsibilities. When she was first revealed it wasn't known that she was an S-class mage from the start maybe because mashima already planned on making a big reveal later on against phantom lord. LightningGeist 09:12, March 29, 2019 (UTC)