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The new chapter's out at last, yay! =D
So, for those who have read it already... Do you think this attack was Magical in nature, or it was only a display of physical strength? I'd go for the former theory, since Jiemma wasn't show performing any move, and the blast appeared to be generated before him... What's your opinion folks?
-- Aldarinor 
Talk Contribs 20:02, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
I think it was just physical strength or maybe a Magical aura Relikz
Talk 20:47, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Strength. Curse this chapter, 3 mages without a known Magic... Herme20:54,5/18/2012
It looks like wind, since Natsu is sorta blown away, but that would be speculation.
Mega 
20:58, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Mhm... Should we vote?
-- Aldarinor Talk Contribs 21:26, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Alright folks, the grumpy geezer's done it again: another seeming shockwave, as shown here. Worth mentioning this time? Jiemma also scared off some people either through a scary face or an aura... Is the whole thing a matter of Magic Power or what?
-- Aldarinor Talk Contribs 14:04, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
Don't know. Mashima want to keep it secret. RelikzTalk 19:28, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
If you ask me, it seems to be more of a presence of Immense Magical Power, not just specific Magic exclusive to Jiemma. A Mage with an enormous amount of Magical Power can affect others around them and cause damage to the vicinity if you take Gildarts and Laxus as two examples.
The apparent shockwave effect would fit well under this. I'm not so sure about the fact that he scared people into leaving the arena with his anger would attribute to possibly Magical Power. I wouldn't be surprised though if the strength of his Magical Power was overwhelming enough to scare them off, however. And as for the attack that killed Lector, well, that I'm very doubtful of. As powerful as it may be, his Magical Power can't just turn a cat into nothingness.
And seeing how Jiemma's chances of surviving don't look good at the moment since there's no Orihime there to cry for his help, I doubt he'll be returning to the big screen enough to show us his true power. The logic that his apparent strength attributes to sheer Magical Power at the moment is good for me. We can wait for another week but chances are, we'll have to wait longer just to hear his name mentioned.
Glass Heart (GHeart) 22:22,9/21/2012
I have a crazy theory that Jiemma may have a regeneration ability. I just don't think that Jiemma would die so quickly. We still don't know much about him. Besides, if he did have that ability, it would make him a very strong opponent. Perfect for the title of Sabertooth's guild master. ---- User talk: Lidor 14:02, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
No theories. RelikzTalk 19:21, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
Can't we just put "Unnamed Magic", like Minerva...? Herme 04:28,10/13/2012
Yeah, I'd say describe what we can and put "Unnamed Magic", like Abe said, and when it is confirmed, it won't require as much editing :Umnei:
Status
What do you say we change Jiemma's status to "unknown"? Because we don't really know if he's alive or not. ---- User talk: Lidor 09:50, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
Volume 33 Name Change
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As per the discussion from my blog, it seems one of the intriguing differences were from this article. Jiemma's name has been changed in the English volume, so please vote below on which option you Support.
A) Ziemma (Eng. Volume)
B) Jiemma (Remain the same)
Sound off below!
:Umnei: 06:14, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Support - B--God
Pray 06:29,9/1/2013
B - I'm sorry, but where did this Z come from?? ☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 07:18, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
B - Because Ziemma makes no sense to me. King of Uncool 08:26,9/1/2013
Support - B.
Choko Kuguza No Tobira ♔ 10:33, 9/1/2013
B - i don't get z part. 
Animaltamer7
11:39, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Why are we discussibg this? Didnt everyone oppose? 
13:58, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Nuh baby It got a support :P
:Umnei: 13:59, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Who supported it?!! Who is the traitor?!! 14:28, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
*skips away*
:Umnei: 14:30, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Neutral ---
Quoth The Raven "Nevermore" '15:20, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
B - Miskos3 Message 17:53, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
B - ( .___.)Mega
Talk 20:12, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Support B - I don't like the proposed name since it sounds awkward KurokamiZero ♦ Talk ♦ Contribute 21:15, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
B - ...
Wrath
Zero 03:50, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
Support B - Landsliiiiide! Enpai18:06,9/2/2013
Etymology
Does anyone think Jiemma is derived from a portmanteau of Ji and Enma? Ji coming from Jiji (geezer, grandpa, etc.) and Enma being the god of death and the ruler of the underworld in Japanese Buddhist mythology? TriNiSette (talk) 18:56, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
Interesting, but we have no evidence to support that. For all we know, Mashima just pulled up his name randomly.
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Jiemma isn't the 1st guild master ?
Jiemma, all over the wikia is listed as Sabertooth's first guild master, which isn't correct, at Episode 151, when the guild were telling Natsu and the other about Saber they stated that Sabertooth changed their guild master and more 5 members joined it therefor he isn't the first master, I don't know his number but he is definitely not the first, did the wikia state that he is the first just because we couldn't give him a proper number ?
Hamody
Asgail 14:16, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
It might've stated that in the anime Hamody, but does it state that to be the case in the corresponding manga chapter? If so then that does leave the question open, if not it's a clear cut case. Derax Pagani
14:41, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
Yea, the manga should say the same. I was actually looking into this some time ago and even had Ummy link me the respective page from Kodansha's translation, since Panda and Stream differed. Miskos3 Message 14:42, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
I looked in the chapter on several manga sites and they all said: Their guild master recruited five very strange but very capable mages , asuring that Jiemma is the first master, what I don't understand why does the anime says something different thing from the manga ?
HamodyAsgail 15:05, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
Anime logic \( ._.)/ Derax Pagani 15:09, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
That sentence never mentions which master he is. It just says that under his rule 5 strange and powerful mages joined and elevated Sabertooth to spot one. How did anyone arrive at the conclusion that he must be the first master?
If the same arguments had been used on Makarov, it would have meant that he'd have been listed as first master up until the the Tenrou arc most likely.
I think it'd be best to just leave out the numbering for either Jiemma or Sting. If it's necessary to clarify anything, so it by date. Anything else is speculation. NoNickNeeded (talk) 15:13, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
- Wait... all over the wikia? I just checked his article (duh... should have done that before posting) and not even there it mentions him as the first. Was this already changed? NoNickNeeded (talk) 15:15, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
I haven't noticed but this was actually deleted from the wikia last month, depending on your theory NoNickNeeded, Jiemma and Sting are now just listed as Guild Master.