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Shouldn't this page be deleted, there's very little information that the angels are beings themselves instead of just a creation from coins (seeing that when they were defeated it costed angel portions of her life). Plus aside from Shamsiel, they have zero personality and seem to only act by the user's orders.Animaltamer708:38, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
I agree. We don't even know for sure that they are a race to begin with. With the almost total lack of information, they could just as well be artificial constructs or even just temporary creations made up entirely by the summoner's magic and shaped by their minds.
But if it isn't deleted, I suggest that the first sentence "Angels are a species of magical beings in Earth Land." is changed. That sentence makes it sound as if they were idiginous to Earth Land, but we don't know that. They could be from EL, but they could just as well be from another dimension similar to Celestial Spirits.
NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:17, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
Plus from what Angel summons in both anime and manga, the anime made them have an deformed version once corrupted I guess, while the manga just summoned feathered beings that seem pretty mindless and only following Angel's orders.Animaltamer710:17, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
There's less information on things like Cubina Gamal, Mole, and Bakshi and they still have a page. Why should this one be deleted? 141.195.26.132 15:59, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
- We know for sure that all those a local fauna and thus they are species for sure. With the Angels we do not know if they are a species or a spell effect. For example you won't see an article for Lyon's ice-animals as species or Bickslow's puppets, because they are just extensions of the magic and wouldn't exist without them. With the Angels that may or may not be the same thing.
- Celestial Spirits are a bit different in this regard because we've clearly seen them existing independant of their owners, but with Angels we haven't see that, at least not yet.
- If you still disagree you're free to make an account and participate in the voting.
NoNickNeeded (talk) 16:10, March 7, 2016 (UTC)- The Lyon's ice animals are created by magic, they're artificial, and bickslow puppets are souls of people, no? this is a different case, is the invocation of angels from coins DisneySeggewys (talk) 17:25, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
- Do we know it for sure? Forming her life-force into coins and then shaping those coins into the shape of angels might just be stages of the magic, just like the ice-make mages use their stances (whether with one or both hands). Since we've never seen an angel any time other than when Sorano summoned/called/created them, we can't really tell which it is. From the way they ended up, we can at the very least say for sure that they aren't messengers from heaven like Angel used to beliefe at first. But if they aren't, then what are they? We have barely a clue and certainly no knowledge, so definitely calling them a race seem ill fitting to me. NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:29, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
- The Lyon's ice animals are created by magic, they're artificial, and bickslow puppets are souls of people, no? this is a different case, is the invocation of angels from coins DisneySeggewys (talk) 17:25, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
Just a question - to make things clear for me :P - Sorano's Magic is more or less a Summoning Magic, not a creating one, so doesn't this mean that the angels are summoned from wherever God knows, but still they exist on their own ? HamodyAsgail 22:17, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
I forgot where, but it was stated to be a summoning magic, it's just that these angels don't even have a personality (Shamsiel is pretty jovial, but doesn't actually have anything else to it's personality).Animaltamer710:49, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
- Caelum, for example, has personality? I don't think so DisneySeggewys (talk) 17:19, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
- Who's to say it doesn't? Caelum had very few screen time and characterization in the manga, while in the anime at the very least it understood Lucy's feelings for the CS like Gemini, plus the one from Katja seemed protective.Animaltamer709:04, March 21, 2016 (UTC)
Alright can someone delete this page already, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to oppose to this?Animaltamer705:36, March 25, 2016 (UTC)
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- Support - Animaltamer710:17, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
- Support - NoNickNeeded (talk) 10:18, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
- Support - --Goblin King - 3000 B.C., Keeper of Evil Squirrels 13:14, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
- Support - Oh my god, can we just delete this already? We have almost no information on the angels. Regardless of whether or not they're a summon and they exist somewhere else...where do they exist? We don't know. They don't have any sort of personality. They are just mindless puppets. Whatever information exists is just copy-pasting the information that already exists on this page, anyway. I think we can do without copy pasta'ing the whole wiki, thanks.
WrathZero 17:27, March 19, 2016 (UTC) - Support - I honestly have no real opinion, but.. Miskos3 Message 18:18, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
- Support -DispellingMage18:51,3/19/2016
- Support - I think I never cared about something less than this discussion since I've been here, idgaf either way Ncduru 19:40, March 19, 2016 (UTC)